One of the main diffs between the Enneagram and Myers-Briggs, for me anyway, is that the Enneagram looks at preferences based on maturity level (I'm oversimplifying), while the MBTI looks at the preferences you're born with (some may not agree with the 'born with' part, but we've seen it in our kids and in kids of our friends).
For what it's worth: an interesting thing I've observed is that I've never met a left-handed person who wasn't an intuitive (the 'N' second letter in the Myers-Briggs).
This is so fun! Lit-tle-Bil-ly-Ri-chard-son. No, never talked with you in high school, but thought you were always sort of a screwball, and was really surprised to hear you'd become a cop, because it didn't seem to fit the playful guy I saw in school. Can extravert when you want to, but basically sort of a quiet observer. Very no-nonsense -- the SJ part. And P, the playful part.
Am I wrong? If so, I gotta find a psych to work through the growing sense of failure . . . not to mention hemorrhoids and humiliation.
Wrong again, I used to play with Bill Richardson in grade school. I remember waving to his dad as he flew over in a crop duster during times on the play ground.
You may be getting warmer, but then again you may be headed in the wrong direction.
Am switching careers to Sudoku Master. Don't have a clue. Any further guessing would be pure guessing, based a little on knowing who's visited the class website in the past. The wording of your taunts sounds male. If your grade school days were spent at Broadmor and we didn't talk in high school, there ain't a lot to go on. Don't know who actually visits this site anymore, now that the halcyon daze of pre-reunion reparte has evaporated. We're all back to watching CSI, fortified by six prunes and shots of Ensure -- late 50's bliss. Care to reveal yourself? Expiring minds want to know!
Yeah, the MBTI can be overstressed, as anything can, but, for me, it's been really useful to get an objective view of how others approach things. I was REALLY skeptical when my wife first introduced me to it, because I don't like being categorized. But it's proven to be very stable way of assessing things for me over the last 20 years.
Am curious, Elson, what do you do for ISTP thrills? Is flying the big models part of that?
Hey Elson!
It's so good to hear from you again! And Phyllis, if you would like to try and be hypnotized, the old Tempe Bowl is now the Southwest Institute of Healing Arts. This facility has a student massage clinic ($35 for a wonderful hour!). Several times a year they also hold a student hypnotherapy clinic. I've been several times. It's really nothing more than a 'massage' for the mind, very, very relaxing. They also have yoga classes (haven't tried that yet!).
Have tried hypnosis, but am always very aware of what's going on . . . doesn't work for me. Â What DOES work is if someone sitting near me is flipping slowly through a magazine or a phone book, or tinkering with something making small noises, my eyes roll up in my head and it's all I can do to stay awake. The noise has to be random and has to be human-made. I had a cubicle several years ago next to the mailroom and every morning the clerk guy would sort letters on the other side of my cube wall. Â The letters would make this soft slapping sound as he tossed them onto various piles. Â Thought I'd gone to heaven it was so relaxing. My wife thinks this is really bizarre. Â Anyone else experience this?
The soft rhythmic slapping of letters being sorted? Ok, I can buy that.
When I was teaching yoga, I would do guided meditations and I put myself out from time to time. So the sound of my own voice, coupled with the imagery in my mind's eye, did it for me.
Have taken the test several times over the eyars and the results seem pretty consistent for me: INTJ but tended to overcome the 'I' enough to move closer to an E. Over the years spent some time in Toastmasters clubs and got more comfortable speaking, which eventually enabled the teaching. I don't think anyone ever loses the butterflies when asked to speak, you can mostly just control or direct them.
